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happening now in the newsroom -- >> i might be naive, but i actually think we're making significant progress and we will get a deal. >> we cannot open the government without senate democrat support. we don't have that senate democrat support, which is why we are where we are. >> there is a need for bipartisanship. that's all we've asked for. >> the daca deal is held hostage from people on the left who want
the perfect immigration bill or nothing, and people on the right who want nothing. really, i say let's vote on it. >> these 800,000 young people are subjected to deportation. this will be one of the ugliest stains in history of the united states. >> we are still in shutdown. we're waiting for the democrats to open the government back up. this is solely being done by the democrats. it's absolutely meaningless. >> announcer: "cnn newsroom" starts now. hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. thanks so much for being with us this sunday. right now lawmakers meeting on the hill trying to figure out how to get u.s. government working again. let's listen in to makowsky of alaska. >> we recognize that as a group of bipartisan legislators, we need to be working with our
respect active leadership teams to have them come to a level of consensus. we want to be able to provide support for that consensus. >> let me just add one point. when was the last time you saw 22 senators meeting day after day, and the number of senators keeps growing with each meeting that we have? and each one of them is committed to getting to a solution. and that to me is very encouraging and we haven't seen that around here for quite some time. >> senator, do you have buy-in from your leadership? the tone on the floor from mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer is different from what we're hearing with you guys. are they on board with what you guys are working up here? >> they are certainly very much aware of our meeting efforts. there will be members who will be going to talk to them to discuss possible options. we recognize that ultimately it
is the decision of mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer as to how to proceed, and we're not trying to preempt that, but we are trying to be helpful in showing them that there is a path forward and that a substantial number of senators from both parties are eager to find that path. >> on immigration, can you give us any details? >> we're not going to give you details because that is still in flux, and it seems to me that the leaders should have a conversation before we're negotiati negotiating. >> do you feel this compromise is strong enough that a vote could happen today and the government should be back open on monday morning? >> i think there are discusions that need to take place this afternoon. i think it is of the highest priority that our leadership, senator mcconnell, senator
schumer engage in a level of discussion. we want to be able to provide that support a base of conversation, but ultimately a determination will be up to the two of them. that's the way the process works in the united states senate. >> one of the things -- i want to point out that one of the things we learned from the last shutdown was that as time goes on, positions -- it is absolutely our goal to make sure that there are discussions today with opportunities for compromise yet tonight. and so that is absolutely critical that we not continue this, number one, on behalf of the country, but i think also resolution gets more difficult the longer we wait. >> what about president trump? do you need president trump to be involved in this process, senator? >> you know, the senate is an institution of its own, and i
think we should proceed on what we believe is the best route forward. >> all right, you're listening to maine's susan collins there talking about how they are trying to work together. she says we're trying to be helpful and help get this process to move forward. ryan nobles was there asking the questions to lisa murkowski and susan collins among the ladies there. so ryan, there is some hope. however, susan collins says she doesn't want to get into the details of what they were talking about, but she said it is the institution of the senate who has to bring matters together, come up with some sort of measures in which to move forward on. so did it seem as though they were very hopeful about potentially coming up with something so that government can be up and running again very soon? >> you know, fred, i have to say having been tracking these
senators for the last couple days, these are the most hopeful we've seen them, but as you saw with that conversation between senator collins and murkowski, even though they feel progress is being made, they don't have a deal yet. they still feel more negotiations need to take place, they still need to talk to their fellow senators, and another big part of this is they have to get buy-in from their leadership, from mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. you heard both senators collins and murkowski say they are coming with leadership of two senators from both parties and say, this is the deal that we have, can we get you to buy in? and by extension, bring in both your caucuses. so even though that is progress and they're moving in the right direction, they are far from getting the ball over the finish line. >> can i interrupt again? senator graham now commenting on this. >> we have at least 80%
supporting a path to leadership for the 800,000. what does the republican party do? we have to find a solution because we have to. >> what do you say to democrats who say they just can't trust the president anymore on this. that's what chuck schumer is saying on the floor. >> well, he's still president, and a lot of people on our side don't trust chuck. i'm not asking people to trust anybody, i'm asking people to grow up and realize we are in charge of the house and the senate and that we have an obligation to work across the aisle. so what would i say to senator schumer? i voted no with you. 30 days was too long. i'm going to vote yes when mitch says february the 8th, which is shorter, with a promise that if we don't get immigration resolved, we'll take it up as a body. i'm obkay with putting it in a mix of things to consider. if the majority leader went one step further and said, if we don't resolve it as part of a
group of issues, then we're not going to ignore the immigration issue. the senate will begin its work on immigration. i think that would be enough for a lot of people. >> senator, have you had any conversations with the president at this point? >> i think it's not just about immigration, it's about other things, too. the democrats told me they didn't shut the government down just for daca. i believe them. i want to get military funding. i want a processed result in a conclusion to these issues. the reason i voted no is 30 days is too long, and i'm looking for will and determination and commitment to actually get a result not just on daca but all the issues. i think mitch mcconnell has provided a pathway forward that makes sense to me. >> what exactly has mcconnell promised to the group that he would do? >> he said on the floor about
ten times that february the 8th is enough time for us to do our business, and that business now includes immigration. so what does that mean? mitch before has said, we can deal with immigration separately. we have until march 5th. there is an emergency on some things but immigration is not one of those emergencies. but now he's saying immigration would be part of the package that we'll work toward concluding, that we're close even on immigration. if you're not listening -- you got to be listening. this is a statement by the majority leader that, okay, we will include immigration a list of things that need to be done by the 8th. my suggestion is if he makes a further commitment, that if we don't resolve the immigration issue, including board of stewart, by the 8th, the senate will turn its attention to that issue. sgrz have you had any discussion
with the groups about a solution? >> i'm not talking about a solution. the president was really good a week ago. we have to do compassion and security. all i can say about the white house, their staff has been very reliable on the issues. on tuesday when the president did a one of job, i thought, he chastised the administration for listing out border demands which can only be concluded at the end, not beginning. he said that was too much. i think he's right. . in understanding what deal will work, you just have to commit to it. someone has to lead. the white house staff has been pretty unreliable.
the house is locked down. so i think the senate is the best body to lead the country to a result. we need the president's support eventually, but i agree with rand paul. if you had an open debate on the floor of the senate and the house, we would get the necessary votes in both chambers and the president would sign it. when does that debate begin? it needs to begin around february the 8th. >> senator graham, are you going to take this proposal directly to senator mcconnell in the coming hours? >> i think senator mcconnell, i'm willing to vote based on what i've heard already, immigration in the pact of things to be considered. i'm making a suggestion that there are a lot of democrats and others that need to know that if we can't resolve immigration, we're going to turn to it before march the 5th, and if the majority leader said i'm committing the body to do that, february 8 we're going to turn to immigration, i think you would get well over 60 votes for
c.r. >> have you spoken to anybody on the house side? >> no. >> if you guys don't make a deal tonight, will it get worse tomorrow? >> mitch is right. mitch has a proposal. we should rally around it. we can change it a bit and get there. i talked to the speaker last night. he's got to run the house. he said, one thing i don't want you to do is do anything that binds me in any deal that i'll be bound. i said, you're right. paul, you run the house. it's tough over there. you do what you think. it's time for the senate. we've always led on immigration. i'm begging the white house to find a way to work with us and get to yes on a proposal that is reasonable. if it's true that the president -- that senator schumer agreed to a number offered by the president a couple days ago on border security, we should be 99% there if that's true. >> do you think you've been badly served by the staff?
>> i like general kelly. i think he's a wonderful man. >> are you saying steve miller? >> the reason we yanked these things back is mr. miller, i've known him for a long time and i know his early support of the president. his mainstream has never been in agreement with the senate, and we're never going to get there as long as we embrace concepts that can't possibly get 60 votes. one of the concepts i completely reject is that we have too much legal immigration. mr. miller was to restrict legal immigration at a time when we need more legal immigration. so mr. miller has evolved on a path way to citizenship, but for every green card you give a daca recipient, he wants to take it out of the system. i don't want green cards just for workers. if you're a construction worker,
i want. i want someone that's going to help our country a chance to get a green card. i just don't want a future of high-tech people. [ inaudible question ] >> i think general kelly has brought chaos to the white house. i don't know what label you give him, but he's brought disorder to immigration. he's in a tough position, but he always said epd to be fair on the daca provision. i think he has a realistic view on what the market will bear. and the president should be done with love and security and let's gets on with it. the tuesday trump, if he comes back, then we'll get a deal.
if they keep pulling him back, it's going to be hard to get this issue over. i would say this from the republican parties' point of view. we've evolved in all the right ways. it used to be amnesty was. >> there's some people on the left that just want trump to lose. the resistance movement. if democrats listen to them, we go nowhere. so, i think we're going to get there sooner rather than later. >> what do you think those senators want done. i think the senators in that room think we're all losing when it comes to government shutdown. the consensus in the room is now
we all need to deal with legislation. >> they're taking something, are they not, to the leaders? >> i can say this, that republicans can move on immigration on a day certain if we all these issues. i'm going to go. that's nouf. if there is more willingness by the leader to say wael move to immigration, i guarantee whether he if we don't find the legislation and that should be enough for everybody. >> we're not talking about a new piece of legislation, we're talking about a vote to agree to this vote tonight and then work on immigration? >> what's the worst that could happen is 25 senators cooking up the idea they don't agree with
their colleagues. it's going to get better. it's going to move to the right some. it's going to give democrats what they wanted to get. i'm not excluding to go back in business and do what the senate had been. my goal is not 60 of those. my goal is 75 votes. >> senator, do you think your democratic colleagues are are feeling pressure after the government shutdown? >> if they don't, they're not good listeners. i've been there. it's not a win for us. first prize in a government shutdown is you get to be dumb, not dumber.
that's the best you can hope for is to be dumb, not the dumbest guy in the room, miguel. when we did it, it. they've got plenty of edge that they don't have to agree to. we're going to get there. and if we don't tonight, i am really worried about where this thing goes. because it's going to get n nastier. >> the difference between you and senator king is that he gets voted for in iowa. >> i like steve king. i didn't mean it as a slam, i just disagree with steve king.
steve king is an official but i think is unaligned with the country but is a nice guy. so senator cotton jumped into the immigration debate, good form but he's got some proposals tease had for more than a month and nobody is. all i'm is that, and i appreciate in the fact that he's involved in our shower. >> uh-huh. >> is he the only spokesmember? >> no, i've talked to other spokespeople. it's not so much about the time, it's the commitment that we're going to get a result. so the february 8th proposal
makes sense to me. sara mcconnell is saying we're going to deal with all the issues, which is a major breakthrough. >> you're listening to south carolina senator lindsey graham there who said some really interesting things there, also underscori underscoring. he said i'm very concerned with where this goes if they don't come to an agreement tonight. he also met with. >> reiterated a lot of what he said earlier, but perhaps he gave a little more detail after susan collins and others were a little bit more reticent about giving more encouragement.
>> we really don't know the substance of what they're talking about in there, we don't know the substance of what their long-term plan is. it seems to be built on the framework of this resolution, but i don't know if there's resolution. what i think you're seeing here, fred, is not necessarily huge progress but incremental progress to get this deal done. yes, there were senators, both democrat and republican, and these are senators willing to cut deals. none of the hard-liners were involved in this confrontation. i type of. they had this lejty discussion among themz, they'll now to and
tell them a lot more than they're telling us about what they talked about, and the. >> then to discuss whether or not they what the process talked about and then on this. no one agreed that there was a progress made this afternoon. i asked senator collins if she thought they were still hedging a bet? she didn't really answer. another point, we've asked a lot of senators about mr.'s md the senate is an institutional body of its own that's an important
role in this vote. >> and some promised to work together which really spoke volumes, didn't it? thank you, ryan, at the hill. boris, we know the president is watching a lot of this live coverage most of the time. he got there by talking on the phone to the republican, or the leadership on the hill, we got to hear from him. there is also a resounding settlement that members of the senate say it is up to them to lead. there is also direct criticism about the white house staff, that perhaps that is also promoting mixed messaging coming from the white house. so is there any expectation that we will be hearing from the white house on criticism that was coming from capitol hill?
>> not yet, fred. we actually reached out earlier today when lindsey graham made some comments specifically about senior policy adviser steven miller and talked about the potential of a breakthrough on a budget deal coming later tonight. they have yet to reach back to us. however, graham made some really eyebrow-raising remarks. i want to quote him here. he said he is begging the white house to help us get to yes, saying that someone has to lead, and really, as you noted, kind of dismissing the white house's role in getting something done and saying the senate should be the one to lead the way. it's really telling and it kind of corresponds to something that we've heard from other lawmakers in recent days that graham praised the president for his position on tuesday when he talked about compassionate kind of immigration law and then criticized him for the way he had kind of changed his opinions afterward. graham specifically talking about white house staff limiting
the progress that's being made on any kind of deal, making the case that perhaps the president's views on a bit more flexib flexible on what mitch mcconnell said recently that he didn't know trump's position on the issue of immigration, and also kind of giving validity to what senator chuck schumer said after that meeting at the white house on friday, that he was close to a deal with the president and later on that deal was yanked, according to lindsey graham, because of white house staff and supposedly fmd. he has ideas, senator graham said, that wouldn't ever get 60 votes in the senate. we've reached out for previous. he is not making phone calls with republicans or democrats
like he was yesterday, or talking to staff about the details of any kind of budget deal. we did see that tweet earlier when the president discussed any kind of option. the president changing rules instead of requiring 60 votes for a budget deal, a simple 51 majority. we have heard from some republican senators, including. they don't think this is necessary and they don't think they will. see if the president weighs in on the optimism and criticism we heard from lindsey graham this afternoon. >> and adviser steven miller, lindsey graham going as far as saying, with his involvement, steven miller, we will never get there. meaning some progress on these
proposa proposals. bori srngs sanchez, appreciate it from the white house. let's learned where the front yard is. >> joining me now. so dave, your sentiments on what with haerpd from susan collins, lisa measure cow ski, theed to do md. it's going as far as saying there is a limp in the leadership and it's up to the senate now to do something. >>. >> i think that's right. it remind me of a quote put out yesterday and he says, look, the
stabilizing wouldn't put us in this position. let's not forget, this is the first time in modern history where one party rules all branches of government and yet they led to a shutdown. moreover, it's not just democrats that voted against the funding bill yesterday. republicans like mike lee, rand paul, lindsey. the other thing i'll. what more cooperation and consensus building in washington. i think that was what the. >> ticklely talking about almost interference coming from white house adder steven miller. listen. >> i've talked to the president. his heart is right on this issue. i think he's got a good
understanding of what will sell, and every time we've had a proposal, it is only yanked back by staff members. as long as steve miller isn't afraid of outlyers, there is a deal to be had. >> that's a pretty direct challenge to the white house staff, even though lindsey graham did praise the president saying, he was --. i think senator graham is making a huge mistake to litigate this issue on television. he's not going to do anything good billed spchld eads part of that gang of eight which is da
but let me remind my friend dave jacobs jacobsen, as long as you say it's trump's vote, it is not. without 60 secrets. >> except there wasn't a majority with the republicans. >> but fredricka, there is no path to 60 without democrat votes. >> but there were five repzen who fail. i think only 10% of. i believe theblgd whip those couple votes if they knew there was a path to 60. dechl kratz are willing to shut down our government over a policy proposal that doesn't even expire until weeks from now. >> so let's talk about moving forward because we did hear that there is some momentum, dave, by
way of lindsey graham's comments, susan collins, lisa murkowski, that they are working on someone. 20 senators bipartisan were working on something and now we understand that minor democrats have taken part in the meeting right now. they've gone into minority leader chuck schumer's office. do you believe that this is momentum in the right direction? >> it's promising. we'll see what happens. we don't know all the details, obviously. it looks like they're still being hammered out. but look, fredricka, at the end of the day, the democrats are lock step with the american people. cbs' poll yesterday said nine out of ten americans overwhelming overwhelmingly. in that same poll it showed 80%
of republicans want to get a deal done on this issue. they have americans on their side. it's up to republicans to cut a deal. >> so they didn't want to kick the can of this legislation, and that's why they wanted to proposal to be inclusive, keeping the government running, keeping the funded going and at the same time addressing immigration. so if it means keeping the government running until february 8 and then promise on delivering immigration before the march deadline, will democrats come to the table on that, dave? >> i think you might be able to peel off some democrats. there's other issues that the children's program which is vital to our society. democrats want a permanent funding solution. the house bill put together a
six-year extension for funding. democrats want a long-term solution to the bill. it's not just daca. i think there are a number of elements that gather who said they're not getting direction from the president on this. we've not heard a statement coming on a simple majority. but there was this add that has been released by the white house as a result of the shutdown. take a listen. >> announcer: president trump is right. build the wall. deport christmass. st stop illegal immigration now. >> how is that helpful, john? >> that's largely what the president ran on, is building the wall. i think the president and the white house are doing exactly
the same thing by not blinking. one of the things i saw, when murkowski and heidekamp --s. >> you don't want to answer. >> i think i saw beads of sweat coming on her forehead. if they don't come to the table. that add was deplorable, abhorrent and discord across this country. it's why people call him the divider in cheer. this is a very disgusting and abhorrent way. >> at the same time, david, is there a feeling among democrats that perhaps they may be paying
a hefty price for the government being shut down? >> i don't think so, because at the end of the day, democrats control the bureaucracy and the federal government. americans rg going to be looking to the 2018 elections and they'll vote as a referendum in virginia and of course in alabama. >> we'll have to leave it right there. dave jacobson, dan thomas, always good to see you. a second day of nationwide purchases advocating the women's march. we take you to this march after this.
today thousands of activists across the u.s. and the world are in day two of women's marches, making their voices and their messages heard. right now from coast to coast, people of all ages working to spark political change amid the ongoing government shutdown. joining me right now live at a women's march taking place in las vegas, cnn correspondent sara seidner and miguel marquez. let's begin with you, sara. you spoke with at least one organizer. what's being said? >> reporter: yeah, we're listening right now to melissa harris perry. there's been a lot of different speakers. we heard from members of congress who couldn't be heard today because of the shutdown. we're looking at the crowd that is hearing all of this go down. i want to talk about what this is about, because last year was about moving your feet and
getting the attention of the world. this year is really about strategy, it's about power to the polls, and that's been the mantra over and over and over again. they are trying to flip sheets. they have chosen this battnevad reason. that's because it is still considered a battleground state. here's what one of the organizers said about the shutdown and who they feel is to blame. the shutdown, anything you have to say about the government right now? >> this is the first time in history when you have a unified white house that we've seen a government shutdown, and i think this clearly demonstrates the catastrophic leadership we have in plals right now and why it's so important that we win in 2018. >> and some of the other people that you will hear from today, you will hear a performance by faith he have evans and cher wi here as well. the organizers have been in full
force here, talking to the crowd and getting them riled up. this is a rally and a big one. >> what are you hearing, miguel? >> if yesterday was about getting people on the streets in energy, this is about turning out the votes. people here are very, very focused not only in nevada but surrounding states, oregon, california. nevada is the place they have started this. this is the official event for the national women's march organization. they've come to nevada because as a governor's race, and perhaps more importantly for them, there is a senate race. dean heller, who is going to be in a competitive situation here in nevada, that's the one that they want to turn out. they have brought women in general, minority women and
people they say have a tough time getting the vote or there are claims of them not being able to vote. this is very much the opening salvo in the 2018 midterms for this organization. fredricka? >> all right, some pretty powerful messaging out there. thank you so much, miguel marquez and sara seidner. still ahead, new reports about an adult film star's alleged sexual encounter with donald trump, and the lengths his lawyers reportedly went in order to keep it all secret. mos. verizon? uh, woah, woah, woah vince. it was ranked highest in network quality performance nationwide by j.d. power and rated number 1 in the nation by rootmetrics 8 times running. it's totally verizon. vince! we can see the sign. the v's sticking out. anyway, the most awarded network is... verizon! vince! you didn't know what it was... you did? okay. when we win, you win. switch to the best network with the best unlimited
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welcome back. in the midst of our reporting about the u.s. government shutdown, the president's involvement or lack thereof, now there is reporting on allegations of an affair between president trump and a porn star. "the wall street journal" reports that michael cohen set up a private company in hopes of keeping the alleged relationship secret, just a month before the election. cnn correspondent, diane gallagher joins emany now with more on this. so the actress in question, stormy daniels seems to be capitalizing on i guess all this latest reporting and publicity? >> yes. she is capitalizing on it, and we got a chance to see that up close and personal last night in south carolina. the funny thing is though, after all of this -- she is even on this tour that's going to different places called the make america horny again tour, she is
denying the affair ever even happened. >> stormy daniels brings her tour to the trophy club this saturday. >> reporter: cashing in on controversy. >> on the hills of stormy's alleged affair -- >> reporter: that affair according to "the wall street journal" between the stormy daniels and the now-president of the united states reportedly happened back in 2006 after the two met after a golf tournament. her real name is stephanie clifford, and she and the white house have denied relationship, but that's not stopping her from promoting it. on friday in "touch" magazine, they published a full interview transcript as she talks about her sexual details about her and donald trump. they never published it because donald trump threatened to sue.
journalists at several news outlets say just a few weeks before the 2016 election, daniels told them she wanted to talk about her relationship with trump, and then suddenly, she didn't. "the wall street journal" also reports that's around the time cohen formed a shell company to pay the porn star $130,000 in exchange for her silence. it shows cohen did set up at least two corporations in delaware around that time, including one on september 30, 2016, called resolution consultants, llc. he did this on october 17th, and that same day, he used that. they paid daniels hush money through fake names and contracts. they were questioned about it friday night on cnn. >> these were answered during
the campaign, and i don't have anything to add. >> there was a denial, but never any reporting about her being paid by the president until now. >> you can contact the individuals who were involved with that. >> reporter: cnn has not been able to independently contact daniels, but she calls the article absolutely false, and denies not only the affair, but ever receiving hush money from donald trump. that statement, however, was provided by trump attorney, michael cohen. and there is that denial from stormy daniels, but look. we were there last night. she didn't actually mention him, and if she was asked about the president, she just sort of smiled and moved on without answering questions, but he was there at least in promotion. there were photos of the president all over the club on the inside. it was set up almost like a campaign headquarters with red, white and blue balloons and bunting everywhere. with the patriotic theme, if you
will, again. she did not address the situation if she was asked about it. she simply moved on from the situation, but i can tell you, fred, that there were a lot of people there in addition to reporters who simply came out because they either -- some people said they love the president, and they wanted to be around somebody who they thought had been with him, and other people because they hated the president and thought that it was sort of a shameful incident and wanted to relish in that. it was a strange crowd there for it, but she is taking her act on tour, and is going to continue working underneath this slogan if you will. >> wow. peculiar is all i'm going to say. all right. t diane gallagher, thank you so much. still ahead, we'll take you to the red carpet of the screen actors guild awards right after this.
>> it doesn't matter what you have achieved in life. death is the final chapter of every person that has ever lived. embrace it, and smile a bit. that might be the last time you smile, you know? all right. another wbig night for hollywoo as stars gather for the guild awards tonight. they honor the best movies and television as chosen by their peers and many of this year's top nominees feature stories by and about women, and the show comes as the #metoo movement is
empowering women to speak out against sexual misconduct. we are joined live from los angeles. stephanie, will there also be, you know, direct messaging by way of women wearing black again in los angeles tonight? >> reporter: it won't be a color this time, fred, but you can expect that the show is going to be very female-centric. the host will be kristen bell, and a lot of the other hosts will be women too. "lady bird" was nominated, and if you take a lack at that motive alone, that is the one to watch because it has so many nominations, not just for the fa film, but also for sam rockwell, and woody harrellson. and you have "big little lies" that people will be watching for because there was so much buzz when it first came out, and also because it did win big at the golden globes.
nicole kidman is nominated, reese witherspoon, and alexander skars guard. we'll meet you here. >> looking ravishing per usual, stephanie elam on the red carpet. thanks so much from los angeles. we have so much more straight ahead in the news room and it all starts right after this. this red is for the fiery. the passionate. feria power red by l'oreal. multi-faceted, shimmering hair color... goes beyond bold. this feria has an extra shot of pure dyes. live in color. live in feria power red by l'oreal hair colorist/paris
hello again and welcome. i'm fredricka whitfield. both the house and senate back in session while senator lindsey graham is working on a compromise or at least talking about a compromise that his colleagues, bipartisan colleagues are working on that could be a breakthrough. senate leadership still playing the blame game as well, and the last hour, senator graham spoke frankly about the standoff, and he believes an agreement can happen as soon as tonight, but